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Feb. 16, 2021

Episode 59: Leighann Lord

Episode 59: Leighann Lord

Leighann Lord has been performing comedy in all parts of the globe for 25 years. She also has the distinction of being and actor, author, & keynote speaker. Leighann graduated Magnum Cum Laude from Baruch College with a degree in Creative Writing &...

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Leighann Lord has been performing comedy in all parts of the globe for 25 years. She also has the distinction of being and actor, author, & keynote speaker. Leighann graduated Magnum Cum Laude from Baruch College with a degree in Creative Writing & Journalism. From there, she chose to pursue a career in stand-up comedy. She has received the NYC Black Comedy Award for “Most Thought-Provoking Black Female Comics” and for two consecutive years, Leighann was Harlem Week’s official comedian. The only other comedian to achieve that honor was Richard Pryor.
You’ve heard Leighann Lord on Sirius Radio, Girls Night Out on Lifetime, & Comedy Central’s Premium Blend.
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[00:00:00] Hey, BTB buddies. You know, I'm always looking for great independent podcasts. And I found another one in quantum week. Holy cow, quantum week is a wild ride through pop culture history, Chris and Matt team up and pick a random week in history and talk about the movies, music, and headlines that make that week unique.

The quantum week, guys talk about all the weeks. Do you know what was big on the week of June 28th, 1991 while it was a league of their own and baby got back. So there you go. Going back in time with Chris and Matt is a lot of fun quantum week. Just doesn't give you an audible list of the stuff going on in a particular week.

Chris and Matt review movies like top gun, mean girls and beetle juice along with music by Katy Perry, Hootie and the Blowfish and Drake. They also cover weeks. And all the years I've listened to episodes that cover weeks from 1969 to 2016. The big movie in 1969, by the way, was midnight cowboy. The banner between Chris and Matt is a lot of fun.

And I like the way they [00:01:00] don't agree on everything. Quantum week is a great show to take you back to the week. That means something to you or to discover movies, music, and news. You may have missed check out quantum week on all the podcast apps. It's a good one. My guest today is a standup comedian author.

And former co-host of the Emmy nominated star talk with Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson. She has performed for us troops in the middle East and has appeared on HBO lifetime comedy central, and the view. She has a PhD in interdisciplinary studies and has a dry bar special. How many people can you say has that?

And here's a little a tidbit for you. She also wrote the pilot for the Chris rock show. I'm great. I'm great. I want to clarify, I was one of a team of writers on the pilot. Oh, my word. I don't, I don't want any angry phone calls or miss tweets or none of that. That was so long ago [00:02:00] and I didn't last long. I wasn't there to pass the pilot.

Oh, that's great. This is kind of funny. I did want to tell the story of how I discovered you because this podcast is just a little over a year old. I'm like two episodes over a year old. And in 2019, I knew I was going to do the podcast. I was doing another podcast. I knew I was going to switch over to this one, but I was nowhere near ready.

And I didn't have art work or anything like that. I wanted to make sure I did it right. So I was doing all the due diligence and studying other podcasts and making sure I'm different and stuff like that. But that time I was getting obsessed with George to Kai, the best way to when you're obsessed with somebody is to.

Listen to podcasts because that's where you get the real story. The TV stuff doesn't really work. And you know, his story is just so compelling. I mean, with the interment camps, with how he was typecast as an actor for so [00:03:00] long and being gay at a time where, you know, they. It's not good now, but it was really bad when he was young.

So I was searching out podcasts and StarTalk had you and, uh, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and he introduced you. And I thought you were just so great on the show that I put your name in my notes and on my phone, put it in there, along with all my grocery lists, all the measurements for the stuff I'm doing in the house.

And it just keeps getting, going down, down, down and. Right before I emailed you. I was cleaning up my notes. Um, I I've been through two phones, I think since, and, uh, so I was cleaning up and I was going Leanne Lord. I'm like, I don't remember. So I had the Wiki up and I'm like, Oh yeah, it's that one. So I emailed you and it's funny, I emailed you a direct instead of using a publicist because, uh, all the publicists are just shooting me down lately.

So I'm glad you're here. Cute. Thank you for having me. Wow. I [00:04:00] made the list literally and survived two phones. That's your deal there? So one of the things I wanted to get into you first, I mean, you've been doing comedy for 25 years, right? Little more now. Yeah, I started in 92. Yeah. Crazy. During that time you're doing all this education.

I mean, you're, you're doing your bachelor's and PhD and stuff like that. I got my bachelor's before I started doing comedy and a PhD. Totally honorary that. Yeah. Don't put me up against folks who did their struggled and did their dissertation work, you know, I'm I'm, you know, I'm just, okay, well, Hey, it's great to put on your credits.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yes and no. It's like, cause everybody's like, what does that have to do with comedy? Like absolutely nothing. And then it does not help for dating. It's like, nah, she's too smart.

[00:05:00] But you know, the, the, the work of being a full time comic man, that's, that's, that's, that's an education in and of itself in my opinion. Right. So what prompted you to get on the stage? Oh, gosh. Uh, well, my prompt to get on the stage was even before I did stand up, I was a theater. I turned into a theater minor when I was in college.

And so I, I did, I performed, I did musicals. I did straight plays. I loved being on stage. Um, and then the comedy part was that, you know, like I loved making my friends laugh, you know? And then that started from childhood where I really made the constant decision that I was tired of being picked on. Uh, for doing my schoolwork.

And I said, well, what will make them stop? And I thought, well, maybe if I'm funny, if I make them laugh, if I tell the joke about me first, before they do it, won't hurt as much and be they're laughing. See maybe the leave me alone. Yeah, it totally worked. It was, it became a tool in my arsenal. Never [00:06:00] suspecting that I would ever actually do stand up.

That didn't come until after I graduated college. Yeah. And what was that first time like, uh, first time on stage. Oh my goodness. It was, I was so nervous. I didn't want to do it. I had taken a class, you know, that's what I'm going to does eight week class, you know, and I, I thought, um, You know, about two weeks before I was like, Oh, I don't think I can get on stage.

This has been nice. Thank you very much. I don't want to do it. And my teacher at the time, he said, why don't you go watch a, a live show, just, just go watch a show. And what happened is I think what happens to everybody? I went to a comedy show. I went to the comic strip, which is where my class was and the comics were terrible.

I can do better than now. My teacher and let my ego do the work for him. Instead of him talking me into it, my ego jumped up and went, come on, Leanne, do this. Uh, which is, you know, we shouldn't always listen to our ego. [00:07:00] Yeah. But you know, I remember I was there. I was waiting most of the night, I'm getting more and more nervous going, Oh, maybe I should just leave.

Um, but you know, I got called on stage, you know, I was introduced and, um, something just amazing happened. I told my first joke. And people laughed and I. I wasn't, I actually hadn't prepared for that part. What do I do now? And like, forgot what else I wanted to say for a few seconds. I came to myself, it was the longest five minutes of my life.

And I got off stage knowing that my life had completely changed. I'm like, this is what I want to do. Because even though I was nervous, I. I felt like I had found my safe space, even though we didn't call it that back then I felt at home and like, this is where I am supposed to be, you know, take my lumps, whatever it is to get better.

But then I want, that's what I wanted to I'm sure. Your previous stage time had. Prepared you somewhat for being on stage, but it's [00:08:00] different when you're up there by yourself, isn't it? Yes. Yes, completely. And when you're a part of a cast and there's a fourth wall and the audience isn't really allowed to interact with you except with applause, um, standup is a very different base, you know, so yeah, you can, there's some.

Preparation perhaps that you have, or familiarity, I should say with being on stage, but it is a different skillset, uh, entirely. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely agree with that. Thinking about your style of comedy now, how much different is it now than it was when you started? Oh gosh, I. I'm not sure how much I've changed stylistically.

You know, I think I've just, you know, over time I've gotten better. I hope. Uh, but my, my voice is stronger, you know, I'm more. [00:09:00] Sure about the material that I've written, I'm more confident on stage. And I have more space to let the audience in. Like when I first started, I treated it kind of like a monologue, like here are my notes, these are the jokes I would like to say, please stop interrupting people with your spontaneous eruptions.

All I wanted her applause, just, you know, and in a way, part of me is still that way. My mentor taught me that the best way to, uh, It's fight against hecklers or people who want to interrupt your show is that you don't leave them room to get in. If they're busy, laughing, they're not busy thinking about stuff to shout at out right at you.

Um, and so I I've adhered to that. Uh, but I've also had to leave space for the people that are honestly answering my questions or they're so happy to be there. You have to make that distinction like who's there, you know, to be an idiot and who's there. Cause they they're really enjoying this. Um, and, and especially when I'm emceeing, you know, I let them know right up front.

When I ask the question, it is not a [00:10:00] gotcha. You know, I'm just trying to bring us together as a unified audience and have a good time. So I think I've gotten a lot more. Confident in, in letting them in and still being able to ring, master the situation as much as one cat. I mean, it's really juggling tigers.

It's not a tight rope. You know, I am amazed that anyone ever wants to do this. Right. Yeah. I agree. Now I've watched a lot of your stuff and. Uh, when you talk about hecklers and, and things like that, I, you have such command to the stage that I don't think you're going to have that happen very often. Very rare.

It's very rare. Um, I am more likely to get the happy heckler, you know, with this, you know, the one, it may be a drunk lady at a bachelorette party. Who's really into it and is really a fan. And it's like, you go girl, you know, Uh, that type of thing, you know, male hecklers are rare, [00:11:00] uh, because comedy before in the before times, uh, was a dating activity.

You know what guy is going to take out a girl and then heckle a girl comedian, that's going to make him look like the bad guy. He's not going to do that. He's just not. Most guys, most guys, again, it's been so rare for me. My, one of my favorites was, um, it was a guy, uh, in the front rows at Deere comedy clubs was ages ago and I rarely perform in glasses rarely.

And this was one of those times I got on stage with my glasses and I know I get, I don't get to say anything. He just looks at me. He goes, Oh, you look like a librarian. And I, I, I don't have heckler lines. I don't have anything prepared. I just looked at him and I said, how would, you know,

thank you for the perfect cover. I mean, no one's ever going to say that to me, you know, it was just the [00:12:00] window, but I'm like, that's a joke I get to tell now. And you really, I really like how you. You talk about real world stuff like, um, you know, um, uh, racism, um, being, uh, money issues, uh, your parents, um, man issues, all, you know, all that stuff.

Yeah. Of man issues. Yes. Yeah. And you keep it, you keep it at, um, you keep it at a place where it opens eyes and, um, You could come in a lot harder is what I'm saying. You can come in a lot harder and I'm sure you and I both think a lot harder cause I, I have a similar style to you and you could really just slay people and either turn the audience totally for you or against, but it seems like you probably do [00:13:00] well with just about any audience.

Is that, is that right? Just just about, you know, I, I I'd like to say I have a relatively broad appeal, but I'm also at the same time, not everybody's cup of tea, if that makes sense, nor do I want to be, you know, when you first start, you don't know anybody like, Oh, I want to make everybody laugh. Like, no, I know if your show is Wednesday night at midnight, I'm not your girl.

My audience already went to bed and then you getting ready for work the next morning and night. You know, but you have to learn, you know, who you are. Not just who your audience is, but who you are and who you work well with. And I've done so many different types of crowds. I mean, I've, I've done all 50 States.

I've performed in all 50 States, you know, and, uh, yeah, by the way, we don't need all 50, but that's another story. Um, you know, I've done that. I've done. Colleges, cruise ships, you know, cruise ships are, are hard [00:14:00] in the sense that you have your family show that they ask you to do. And then you have, um, your, your late show, your, your R rated show, you know, and I always used to say, I'm, I'm lowercase R.

Um, my just learning who I am as a con, you know, a lot of the early opinions were that I would be a great TV comic, or I would get more work that way. Um, and I, I also am reflexively, you know, when I was, when I was coming up, I didn't like insult humor. I didn't like people who abuse the audience, I'm like, this is counterproductive.

You know, people would come in and they're afraid to sit in the front row. I can't have people afraid to come see what I do. Why are we spending so much energy chasing audiences out from what we want them to do is come in. And so I was mindful of that, you know, uh, as a performer, you know, again, I, this is not to judge anyone else's.

Style, you know, people do what they do and others like what they like, but I [00:15:00] know it was something that I was conscious of. I'm like, no, I want people in the seats and I want them in the front row. I want them laughing. You know, not, not being I've I've seen people freeze up what I look at them and I say, hi, nigga.

Yeah. And I'm like, we're not doing that. It's not that type of show right now. If you bring me nonsense as a heckler where I can either finish my show or the next 30 minutes could be about your mom, what are we doing? No, we can keep it nice and friendly, or we can take this outside, you know? And no one ever thinks of me that way, because I don't try to run my show that way.

Right. You know, um, I want, I want everyone to have a good time everybody. Who's the day. Yeah. You know, to, to have a good time. Yeah. And there is a difference by the way, between the eight o'clock show and the 10 o'clock show, you know, where, you know, if you saw one of those shows, it's like, Oh, okay. She is coming in a little harder.

Yeah. Cause there, yeah.

Yeah. [00:16:00] Yeah. I, I prefer the eight o'clock show myself, but I I've been with plenty of the 10 o'clock just because that's when I could get there. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, I've come to appreciate, well, again, the before times and 10 o'clock show, because I remember the midnight shows, which is like, why don't we hear everybody?

Can't we just get a juggler? Yeah. Do that. Who was the guy at the comedy store that did the late nights. That was just so nuts. I, I don't remember his name, but they, they just used him all the time for the late nights. Yeah, no, I don't. I wasn't, I wasn't I'm I'm New York based, so I don't know who, who was at the store late, but it's like, yeah, that's, that's the hour for high energy.

Um, loud, louder comics for half. And, you know, yeah. It doesn't hurt to juggle. It does. Cause what are we asking for? What kind of attention span are we asking for at night? No, I'm not gonna, you [00:17:00] know, say, has anyone read the syllabus before I start? Exactly. Yeah. They read the beer bottle. That's all I read.

Um, thinking about your influences, obviously you must've liked comedy in order to get into it. Who do you think your biggest influences were? Oh man. Um, I think early on for me, I mean, of course, uh, George Carlin courts, you know, just because similar work, ethics, similar styles, similar ideals, perhaps if I can be so bold, you know, I feel like he.

Made people laugh about really serious things, but on the face of them might not have been funny, but he was able to, to do that and make people laugh. And then once you take that laugh and you have that cleansing breath, as I call it, it's like, huh, that was funny. But that was actually serious. Maybe we can work on this now.

You know, [00:18:00] he, he epitomized to me the, uh, The town crier, you know, that, that, that person had said, Hey, body builders is on fire. We should do something. You know, that's what comedy has done to me. That's great comedy, right? People have different, you know, opinions, you know, they like their slapstick or their silly humor, but humor that makes me laugh and think that's.

That's sort of my wheelhouse. Um, so I guess that's why I grew up liking Carlin. Uh, I also like, uh, there's some, some, well, I won't say lesser known, uh, but Marsha Warfield for sure. Um, and it folks are unfamiliar with her. She was the bailiff, uh, one of the bailiffs on night court. So I've actually approached her publicist and, uh, ha I haven't gotten anywhere yet.

So if you know, or put in a word, she just hit her up on Facebook. Why are you calling her publicist? That's insane. No seriously, because I reached out to her we're on Facebook. This was years ago, just to say how much of a fan I [00:19:00] was. Cause she was one of the first black women. I saw, you know, doing comedy on TV.

And I was like, we can do that. Yeah. Because I didn't know anything about moms neighborly. I was too young, you know, she's in her special smoking a cigarette, not giving a damn, I was like, Mommy. So cigarettes, like, it was just always this, I reached out to her to tell her what a fan I was and, you know, lo and behold, she's a fan of my work and I'm like, Oh, that's great.

Are you kidding? I'm mind blown. Like, like how do you even know me? But you know, you follow, you know, you get to know who's who in the industry. And we just, she came here to New York. I, she actually gave me tickets to go see her show over at BB King's. And she was like, yeah, hang out. We'll have drinks. I was like, Well, I met, I met her.

I already knew, you know, Paul Mooney at the time. And I was like, I am sitting here with camo comedy royalty, and they think I'm allowed to sit here [00:20:00] like crazy. So sometimes people are more approachable. Um, then you think, you know what I mean? Maybe if it's because it's, it's, it's an interview, but I mean, I have found her to be approachable and delightful and it helps us.

Yeah. Well, I'm going to drop your name and just go direct. So we'll see how that works. Yeah. One of the things you mentioned was work ethic and you know, your bio says that you're. You like to fill up your whole day and you are very organized. How does that go? As far as writing and having your material, are you on like a set schedule for writing or how does that work for you?

No, I wish I were more like, you know, Stephen King, you know, get up, write for five hours, turn out three novels. You know, I wish my work ethic were that strong. Um, in terms of. You know, doing my show. I mean, I'm, I'm a relentless idea gatherer, you know, [00:21:00] so anything that, that, you know, an idea comes to my head, I stop immediately and write it down.

Um, W we have the, the, the materials to do that. If there's a phone in your hand, you have a dictation machine, you have a note app, you know, no idea should ever be allowed to escape. You know, me, my son, I'm relentless about that. And then, you know, I don't waste my time. You know, when I'm online, standing, waiting online, I'm just not sure.

Staring off into the atmosphere. I'm looking at my notes, but what did I, what did I jot down here? What can I look my flesh out? You know? And I love, and then when I can take it from there to actually sitting down and. I would say majority now it's typing, but I still like the freedom of having a piece of paper and a pen.

Yeah. And if it, particularly, if an idea is giving me a hard time, it's easier for me to flush it out on paper and just let, let that, let that rhythm get. You know, get into that rhythm. It sweeps me up every time I really enjoy it. And at this [00:22:00] moment, believe it or not, um, I felt like I wanted to do something a little different.

So I'm actually doing, um, uh, writing for late night TV class. Oh cool. And uh, Oh my God. I had no idea how much I would love it or how much I've missed being a student of comedy. You know, cause you, when you're out here doing it and grinding, you sometimes forget about the things that you need to do to, you know, elevate your skills.

Right. And, and so that's actually changed my work ethic recently. I'm up every day, you know, combing through the news, what's happening, gathering ideas. You know, to jot down and then come back and write later. And some of it might be suitable for late nights. Some of it's just for me. And there's a diff really big difference between writing for yourself as a standup and then writing for someone else, you know, writing in their voice.

Uh, I finally think I'm at that point in my career where I have the ability to, to separate the two. You know, but either way it's, it's, it's, it's building the [00:23:00] muscles, it's building the, the, um, the, how should I say the practice of writing? Because you have to fit that in like everything else. If I'm sitting here writing, then I'm not doing something else.

Right. Um, and if that's just bingeing, Netflix, that's okay. Netflix is going to be there. Right. But, but I, once I get into the process, I enjoy the process. That's the thing that keeps me coming back a perfect day for me, a perfect day for me is having an idea, jotting it down, fleshing it out, seeing where it might connect to another bit in my set.

Taking that onstage and working it out. If I can, if I can go from morning to night and I got, I got that arc.

And if it doesn't work, even if the joke doesn't work, but that now it comes to why doesn't it work? You know, did I not get it out of my mouth the right way? Did I stumble over words? Was it not in the right position? Did I mess up my timing? Was it not there? You can play with all of that once you do it right the first time and then bring it back, you [00:24:00] know, and it's just gotta be like several passes before you go.

Yeah, that, wasn't funny. Yeah. And I asked a lot of comics that, because. Everybody has a different view. A lot of people, you know, they work out new stuff. They don't even write it down. They just work it out on stage. But everybody has, I couldn't do that. Everybody has to have a point where they say, okay, I love this joke.

It's my little baby. But. Nobody else likes it. So it's got to go home and yeah. Yeah, no, there's no shame in being ruthless. You know, why would you, why would you punish yourself now? Why would you punish the audience? You know? And, and sometimes it it's, it's not throwing it out completely, but sending it to the side for later because something's missing.

And you may not have the time or talent to figure out what it is yet. So you just see some aside, you know, it's really the George Carlin school of, of, um, material development. He threw nothing away. Now. It doesn't mean you do all of it. Right. But you know, sometimes [00:25:00] something needs to breathe or you need a different perspective, um, in order to come back to it and I've come back to stuff years later and went, Oh, that's it.

You know, I'm like, I'm like, I'm finally able to see something or yeah, that's trash. And being able to say that it's okay, you should be writing and developing at such volume. That to let one thing go is not going to sabotage your entire set. You know, at some point the closer you're using now is not going to be the closer you use five years from now.

Maybe not even a year from now, you know, given the year that we've had right. So you can't get so attached to, um, a bit, especially if it's not working. Yeah. Um, and I, I, you know, I hear you about some people get on stage and they work it out in the moment. Okay.

And you know what, I think you have to earn that. Yeah, I think that's something you earn in. Unfortunately, newbies come out and they say, Oh, I saw so-and-so, you know, just, you know, riff for 20 [00:26:00] minutes I'm selling. So was Chris rock

unlimited access to stage time? You have to be a little bit more focused with your time as do all of us. I mean, I. I like to prepare, you know, ahead of time. And I think the preparation is what allows me to then discover things in the moment. There are things, you know, trying to get a joke out or, or doing something new where it'll just come out of my mouth in a way that I never could have written it.

You don't like now that's gold to me, but only true gold if you've recorded it. Yeah. What about when a comic on stage says, Oh my God. Cause somebody write that down. They're serious because they forgot to turn their phone on and it's like, yeah, come on. But I also want to effort. I do know just, it's really hard for me to just throw my babies out there.

Just, you know, okay. First jokes out of my mouth brand new. I, I [00:27:00] kinda, I, I like to sandwich them in between more experienced jokes. Like, like it's like the bigger siblings walking, the little kid, the little sibling to school, you know, where they have a little support. Do you know, their first title. And then we see where they are, where they're, where they're, where they will fall.

So I know I'm way overthinking it, but this is what works for me. Yeah. And really it's fairly common among comics to do that, to sandwich things that are new in the middle and give them a shot. Yeah. And I don't want to, I don't want to beat up to this point, but, uh, so you got a new joke and you. Do it in the middle of the set and it's, it's like, uh, a B minus and, and, but an a, B minus is usually something you keep, because you know, you can make it better.

How long, how many repetitions do you think you have to do before? Okay. I own this [00:28:00] joke. This is, this is part of my act and it's going to be in every set. Yeah, I don't, I don't think there's a, there's a, um, An algorithm for that. Now I'm sure. Now that I've said that there's somebody working on an algorithm for how, how that, that math is, this is such an individual thing as a comic.

You know, sometimes you hold on to stuff too long, like a relationship like you should've left two years ago, right?

Uh, yeah, I think it's, it's different because given how much stage time you're getting, you might not get to do that joke every single time you're onstage. You know, if you've only got, say a five minutes set, uh, and it's, it's a money set perhaps, or you're on a show, are you going to trot that joke out? You know, are you just going to go with your, your killers?

So it takes time, especially in after that first time, you know, can we, there's so many [00:29:00] different ways to tweak it. Before, you know, you know, and like I said, you know, it was, it, was it the cadence? Was it the position? Was it the timing there's. So as Jerry Seinfeld says, where's your head tilted in the right direction?

Well, you told the joke, the variables are many and to be willing to hang in there and, and see how you can fix it. If it's fixable, right. And is this a joke that universal, you know, it's a joke that you can't do if you're performing at colleges and it's not a college joke, it was a joke about divorce that joke's not going to fly for that audience.

You know, sometimes things are very audience or generationally specific. So, yeah. So, yeah. I'm sorry, I don't have a number. Um, But yeah, listen, but if it's, if it's we're getting over 10 times and it just, it always just falls flat and you've honestly worked on it, you know? Thank you for your service. Yeah.

Yeah. [00:30:00] It's funny. You mentioned recording your sets because I had always recorded audio and not very often recorded video. And then I started doing a couple of videos of my sets and found out. Um, exactly why people weren't laughing because I was just like a wooden statue up there. I wasn't moving. I wasn't doing anything.

Yes. You know, I, I, when I, when I've taught class, uh, I I'm a stickler for it. You would least have to get the audio down, you know, because you're on stage hearing, at least in the beginning is not as good as what you're hearing. Hearing, when you listen to the recording, like when you're on stage, you're like, Oh my gosh, why is this not doing well?

What's happening in your, in your, in your head, you know, then you listen to the recording, you go, Oh, I totally messed up my setup. You know? Oh, you know, the waitress dropped a bunch of drinks. Oh, the audience got distracted. There, there are things you can listen for after the fact, you know, just, just off audio.

So just that as even valuable, [00:31:00] you throw in video. And you're like, Oh my gosh, I had no idea. I was stepping backwards on my punchline. You know, that's, that's the subtle thing where, you know, I'm not really sure about this. This is new. I don't know you. I'm going to tell you guys laugh. There's no confidence there.

Or, or like you said, you're, you're too, you're too stiff. No. So how do you loosen up? You know, or people have too much energy they're pacing for no reason. You know, the audience is spending their time watching you like a tennis match and not listening to what you're saying, you know? So there there's so much rich information.

My dad used to call it game film. Yeah. You know, he's a big sports fan and it's like, they play their games, they watched their game footage. What did you do? What happened there? Right. You know, and it just shaves so much time off of your development. Yes. Yeah. I agree. It makes you a stronger before and then it also gives you something to work on.

You know, I have my, my younger comic friends, they complain about open mics and I'm like, [00:32:00] well, what are you doing when you're going on open mic. If you're just trying to play to those 10 comics in the room, that's not your audience. You know, you walk in, it's like, okay, these are the jugs that want to do this.

This is what I'm working on. No in terms of material now, what are you working on physically? Are you working without a mic this week? Are you working with the mic in the stand? Are you working on eye contact? Like there's so much for you to be doing a ton of worry about the 10 comics in their notebook, not laughing at you, you know, how will you, how are you developing?

How are you using the development time? And I think if you train that way, that's, that's when I say work ethic, that's what you're doing throughout your career. You know, um, you get off that stage, you know, Saturday night. Yeah. That was a good show. Now. Now what was that new bid? I did, you know, let me listen.

How did that, because I said it, I said it the best way tonight that I've ever said it. Let me go back and get that. I mean, this is all very selfish. This is all very, how do I be the best comic, you know, or, [00:33:00] you know, do my best, you know, at this, at this time. And that's whether you're an open mic or headliner, honestly, Really that's what you have to do are you're just going to stay at the open mic level.

I mean, you've been doing this for a long time and you filmed the Drybar special and 2019. Is that right? Yes. Yes. So tell me how that comes about and take me, take me from okay. Uh, you either asked to do a dry bar special, or they asked you all the way through production and all that. Sure. Um, uh, I will, I'm embarrassed to admit, had no idea who they were.

Yeah. Not a clue, you know? And I, and, and here's, what's funny. I went see clips of my friends, you know, they, you know, they do the, like a little 10, second 32nd clips and I'm like, Oh, that's great. Yeah. But my mind didn't go past into, you know, actually continue. This is dry bar. This is there. So [00:34:00] yeah, I was, I have no idea what I was thinking.

So I get a call. Um, I guess it was October, uh, from Tony Camacho. He goes, Hey, Leanne. Uh, yeah. Uh, can I submit it, you for dry bar? And I'm all I heard was submit, you know, comedy, you know, opportunity, you know, we're sort of. Most of your career, you're trained to say yes to everything, you know, until you get to the point where you go, I shouldn't have said yes to that, you know, but that comes in time in the beginning.

And for most of your career, you're just like, yes, yes, yes. You can be on stage and yes, it sounded like an opportunity. Had no idea what I was singing as two week later, he calls me back. So. Okay. Well, yeah, you're, you're in you. You gotta fly to Provo, Utah. I'm like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. What. What, what are you talking about?

He slowed down. He explained it to me and I'm like, and I got to go when I get, like, I didn't even have a full month technically to prepare. And then I [00:35:00] had to remind myself, no I've been preparing my entire career. Let's let's not get crazy. I'm not starting from scratch. What I didn't have was a lot of run around the city time, you know, to sort of put together the set that I wanted.

Um, but I did it, you know, you, you reach out, you let people know what you're doing. And it was funny in the more people I told, I was like, Oh yeah, yeah, I got picked up to driver. Can I do a spot on you're done. You got picked to do dry bar. Oh my gosh. And I was like, This is, this is exciting

until I'm asking for spots know, no, a lot of people were proud and accommodating and I thought it was a 15 minute set. Oh, I get there. Yeah. I get there that day. You know, I fly in that day. Do the show that night, the shows that night, it's like, Oh, I don't think I could do that anymore. I need to, I need to get it a day before now, but that day it's like I go in we're we're picking outfits.

We're doing the run-through and uh, that's what [00:36:00] I, I hear like, Oh, it's a 25 minutes set. I literally my, my, my comedy brain went okay. No nap. That that's all that means. It's like, I'm not getting it right. A post, uh, traveled app. And which for me was actually okay. Cause I'm one of those people you tell me how long a set is supposed to be.

And I over-prepare. So if it's a 10 minutes that I've usually got 15 minutes of material that I've had to hack away and I do that consistently. So I just knew I had to go back in and just put in all the things I thought I had to shave out for time. And, uh, so I get there that night and by the way, um, just to, to take a step back, one of the things I learned in the process, and one of the reasons I got submitted is that the dry bar brand is clean common.

Yeah. You know, that's their, that's, that's their wheelhouse, but not just clean. Provo [00:37:00] clean. Yeah. You know, Provo, you talk and I've been perceived as clean my entire career. I'm not, but because I strategically use, uh, shall we say the salty words? Um, because they're accurately, they're used in the right place in the right time and the right number of times, um, people don't hear it when I use it.

Yeah. You know, no, no, it's, it's, you know, I I'm from the Robert Klein school of, of profanity, you know, it's like a seasoning, if you overuse it, you've ruined the meal. Yeah. Just the right amount. The meal is delicious. Yeah. You know, that's to me profanity and even subject matter. So, um, even that, even that knowing that I'm considered proceed as relatively clean or mostly clean, you know, there.

Their criteria made me go, huh? I don't know if I can do this. You guys. I mean, just, just to give you a very specific example, you're not allowed [00:38:00] to say, Oh my God. Oh, Right now for most of us, that's just a random utterance going in between jokes as a response to something you've said, uh, for them, it is literally said in the praise of God, you know, for worship.

And so to say it, when you don't mean that is considered disrespectful. Okay,

but they know their brand. And so they, if you could picture the show, you know, they, they, they, they think you already fit, but they also want you to win. Yeah. And so they send along their guidelines, they send you a video of what is expected and accepted. And what's not, you know, I don't think as, as a performer where we're used to being told, Hey, don't joke about this five minutes before the show starts.

You know, I, I did a school in five minutes before I go on. They said, yeah, could you not talk about religion and date rape?

[00:39:00] And now that is all I want to talk about, even though I don't have it in jokes there two minutes to write new material, it's just this week weird response that you have as a comic or as a human being, because humans are like that. You tell us no, and that's the thing we want to poke and touch, you know?

So. So going from having that situation to going no, no, no, no. Here's all our guidelines in advance. And at any point, you, if you really don't think you can do it, you know, I say, say no, you know, don't, don't make it a difficult situation for yourself and for them, and this is what this is, whether it's a TV show or gig, you know, if you, if they're paying you money, You know, and you, they're calling you in and you're supposed to be a pro and go, okay.

Yes, I can do this or no, I can't. So, you know, I flew out there. Um, they treat you like gold. I mean, it just, it's beautiful. I wish I had a chance to stay longer. Yeah. You know, to, to [00:40:00] just, you know, take it all in and enjoy it because the little I saw was just absolutely beautiful. Well, yeah. And depending on which God, you know, we'd like a piece of this, this is nice.

This is nice, you know, to lucky gets there and then it's done. But yeah, they, they treated me very well. The audiences just Primo, just so I noticed that and I watched it today and I, I thought they really reacted well. Oh, they were so good. You know, and also I feel, it also helps that I, I was dressed nice.

I came dressed for bear, you know, my, my, and I've always been that way. Not necessarily, it's always sequenced, but you know, my theory is if you don't get the jokes, you'll like the outfit, you know, I'm you, you're going to be entertained on many levels here. And if it's not the outfit, then the sparklies in the outfit will.

Right. Um, from any jokes you don't like, but yeah. But it was weird to be [00:41:00] at a club that served didn't serve alcohol. It only served candy. And I was like, wow, that's different. Like they're really serious and they're really committed, but they're also, you know, they're, they know their brands and their, and they treat the comics.

Well, yeah. No, I, you know, I had no argument and again, I have, I forget, I have to explain to people they're like, Oh my God, there are people in the audience. Did you just take this? And like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, slow down. This was about the before times, this was 2019 when we could gather as a people. Um, and then the decade of 2020 happened.

So I feel like I take this special 11 years ago. Yeah. It's just getting. Yeah, for sure now. And I'm actually glad because it just, it feels like 20, 20, it's just new. It's a new feeling is that it was a, it's a good time to have something like this to promote, you know, going forward. It's a good time. And you've got, uh, as far as I can see from Drybar and I've [00:42:00] had a few people, who've done specials on the podcast.

You it's a one and done take. And does it go out with no edits or no, no, no, no, no. Um, we, they, they are belt and suspenders people. We w we take that show twice. Okay. Yeah. And same outfit, you know, in front of two different audiences, same material, mostly. Um, and they, like, I didn't get a, uh, sent a rough cut.

I want to say until November last year, you know, so it was almost a year later. Part of that I'm sure was the pandemic that them show their production. Uh, the, uh, timeline usually isn't that extended. Uh, but they. They, they, I was surprised because any TV show I've ever done, I don't get to see a rough cut.

Like I was like, is this, is this a mistake? Did y'all mean this and this to me, they were like, yeah, we want you to see it. Don't worry about the color corrections or this or this. And I was like, Oh yeah, [00:43:00] color correction is exactly what I was worried about. Uh, That's not my field. I just assume you guys will work that magic.

And they said, yeah, we just want you to see it. It was there anything you wanted us to change? And there was one thing that I think got mixed up in the edit or, you know, that I didn't remember doing. And I'm like, yeah, that joke right there does not make sense in that position. Can you take that out? Yeah, sure.

And I was like, yeah. I'm just, you know, as an artist, she gets so used to not being treated well or respected so that when it happens, it's like, is this like normal? They're very pro their productions are very professional and you know, that they're shooting enough B roll, that they can do a take and come back because it's so seamless when you watch it.

It's yeah, I. I see a lot of shows that were, were recorded. That's why I thought it was a one and done. Um, I've seen a lot of shows that were recorded over two nights and you can tell. It's it's super obvious. And maybe [00:44:00] it helps that it was one night, you know, two shows one night and this wasn't two nights, you know?

Cause there, there, there is something to be said, different energy, you know, your hair curls a little differently, you know, I, I don't know. So there there's some logic there to why you would do it back to back. Right. You know, and just turn the audience over. Um, so, but they, you know, the, it was nice to be with people who not only cared about the production, but they cared about you as a comic.

And it, it's funny. I was, I was agonizing over material. Of course, it's like, what do I do? What I put in, what I take out. And, um, I decided to just, this was just sort of me and my peace of mind that said, this will be the material that I don't really do anymore. Um, about my parents. Yeah. You know, this'll be sort of a love letter, you know, in my heart and my mind, you know, no one else knew this, you know, to the people that supported me my entire career.

And, you know, the last few years has had for me have been that transition to, [00:45:00] um, Being the adult in the house, you know, the role reversal thing has happened. So, uh, I, I, I thought this would be a good idea to put that material there, sort of as a love letter and a thank you to my parents and as a sort of a nudge and a wink to people who are in that position.

And it worked, you know, I remember in between takes the director, came over to me and started talking to me about his parents about how they weren't there yet. Yeah, you know, and him, but he, but he could see it and him and his siblings were starting to talk about it, which is more than what most people do.

Most people just try to ignore it, you know, but maybe, I guess he was the oldest, but he's like, yeah, I see it, you know, and kudos to him for, for trying to get out ahead of it. And, uh, at the end of the night, I remember talking to a couple who, uh, had been there, done that. Uh, with her parents, you know, and they, they seem, they were so grateful that somebody could take something that's not on its face, funny at all, but there are [00:46:00] elements of the role reversal that are hilarious.

And I think if we can put it out there, it a does what Carla does. It makes people laugh about something that's actually really serious. And then it's like, Oh, okay. Now what do we do?

That's great. And I, I relate to the parent thing. Just my, my dad is, uh, Oh, I've got, cause my mom passed away, but uh, he went through a hip surgery, uh, 20, it was a latter part of 2019. And that was a journey. Uh, I, I don't say the word journey very much, but, uh, it was, it was a lot. And, uh, for both of us and we, uh, we got to know each other a little bit better.

I know that. And gosh, yeah, but they get so stubborn, you know, they just know I'm not going to get up out of those share and I'm not going to walk. I'm not going to get my hip feeling good and everything's wrong. And yeah. It's yeah. [00:47:00] Well, first of all, PT is hard. Physical therapy is hard, no matter how old you are.

Yeah. You know, you add on some years and some crankiness, that's, that's tough stuff. How's he doing now? How's he doing now? Actually mobility wise. He's pretty good. Except for he's got neuropathy on, uh, cause he's diabetic. He's got the neuropathy on the bottom of his feet. So he, you know, Right now his position is I, there's no reason for me to get the hip replacement.

I shouldn't have done it because I can't walk because of my feet. But you know, so now I'm looking for different remedies for that, because there's not a whole lot, you can do. So trying to make a little bit better so he can get up and walk a little bit. Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's definitely tough, you know, and I, I remember, you know, trying to shop my way.

Out of whatever was happening with like my parents, you know, I was like, my dad needed cane tips. Like he was just out there with a cane with a tip on it and I'm like, okay, this is a disaster about to happen. I'm on Amazon looking for Kane tips, [00:48:00] you know, and you know, so whatever they needed, so they got to look it up and buy it on Amazon.

And it really changed my algorithm. You know, like Amazon must think I'm an 80 year old woman. Cause if you like cane tips, maybe you'll like diapers. I was like

laundry. I gotta search to get my algorithm back off point, you know? But yeah. And, and to their stubbornness, I liked too. And you can only do this. You can't do this in the moment. You have to do it in a quiet moment when you're not having an argument when you don't want to wheel them out into traffic and, and realize how long have they been adults doing what they want to do, how they want to do it.

And just you, you switched that around and somebody walked up to you, all of a sudden said, Hey, you can't drive anymore. Give me your keys. How hard would you fight when you fight? Yeah. You know, so it's, it's a, it's a big change and it gets, it's scary and it can speak [00:49:00] to our sense of identity and our sense of freedom.

And so when you, when you put that in your mind before the next big fight, maybe the fight isn't as big. Yeah. Well, you realize you don't need to win this one, right. Approach it differently. So it's not a fight, you know, it's so much of this is learning. On the job learning, you know, and I can only say this after having a couple of yelling matches with old people.

Yeah. I compare it to having a grandkids more than kids turning it around because you let grandkids do whatever they want, as long as they don't get hurt. And so I think it's, I think it's pretty much like that. Yeah. Yeah, no, there were, there were some, I really had to decide which battles I wanted to fight and they're not all worth it.

You know, I stopped having the food fight. Yeah. Like if it was nothing that was going to, you know, raise his blood pressure and, you know, send them to the [00:50:00] hospital. Yes. Guess you can have the candy. I'm not, I'm not taking candy from an 80 year old baby. Yeah.

Oh man. So, um, obviously the comedy has taken you. Other places. You, you did the podcast with. Neil deGrasse Tyson for awhile, and you've been doing a lot of writing and I didn't get to read any of Dick jokes, but can you tell me a little bit about that? Oh, sure.  visual aid or right here. Um, it, you know, it's much more important, you know, when we're doing radio.

When we mentioned the book that that tea has to be properly needed so that we don't pique the interest of the FCC. Um, yeah, I'm sure they have other fish to fry, but yes, the book is called, uh, Dick jokes and Dick does short for dictionary cause I'm like a giant word nerd. Like that was my undergrad degree, you know, journalism and creative writing.

And I just. I've kind of always had the idea throughout my life. That words would be [00:51:00] more fun if they meant what they sound like. You know? Cause I, I had those parents that will like sound it out, you know, get up and get the dictionary that's back when you had to actually physically get up and get the dictionary.

And it was just easier for me to. Sit there and read my book and go, okay, this word sounds like what I think means what I think it sells. You know? So like, like during my shows, I tell people, I said, you know, they, his example is grammatology sounds like the study of grandmothers, you know, or histrionics sounds like the history of Ebonics or.

Or elixir sounds like how British men give oral sex. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's just, it's just a silly little book, you know, it's a silly little coffee table book, but I, I think we need silly little, you know, I love, I would love it when, because I would sell these after my shows and people can buy this. They can I take a look at it. I said, sure. They pick up the book. I would love it when they was flip the book [00:52:00] and then start giggling.

Yeah. And I'm like, there you go. And then they reach into their pockets and they're buying the book or they have friends who are teachers, or they have, you know, friends who have students who are taking the sat and cause that's it. And these are real words, actually real honest to goodness words. Um, and so the S the, the sale, you know, is that yes, my funny definition.

Um, but you actually get the real definition of the word and it's, uh, it's part of speech, so you can fool around and accidentally learn stuff. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah, that's how I sell it. It's nice. Just have some fun, you know, just take it with you. It's a bathroom book. You take it in and you start laughing things.

Yeah, well, yeah, no, I loved it and doing it at my shows and you know, it's of course they're on Amazon. I had, I thought volumes went into of this book on Amazon. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm I'm I'm a big vocab nut. [00:53:00] And along with that, The people of parents podcast. This goes into you taking care of mom and dad right now.

Yeah, ahead. Yeah. I started the podcast, people, the parents, and it actually came out of the frustration of not understanding what was happening to them and our relationship. And, and even before that, I started talking about it on stage because it was just taking a bigger, bigger, you know, uh, space in my life.

And it was like, what is happening? And, you know, as comics, you know, depending on the type of comic you are, you processed your life through your art and you tell jokes on stage. And I started having people come up to me. You know, tell me about their mom, their father-in-law there are, you know, and, and I thought it would be a generational thing, but no, I had young people too, cause they have grandparents, you know, or they have, you know, they were, uh, their parents had them late in life, [00:54:00] so they had older parents.

And so I had no idea how many people were struggling with this because we don't talk about it. And I started the podcast out of just, I needed that outlet that wasn't always stand up. Cause some of the stuff just wasn't flat out funny. Right. You know, and I, it was really my way of reaching out and looking for help.

And I found out, wow, there's an entire, you know, Huge community of people who are laboring with, you know, what it means to take care of an elderly loved one or, or a loved one who is unwell. Uh, and how do you manage that? And you know, these, there are some interviews, but most of these turned out to just be, you know, funny little poignant stories that would happen between me and my dad.

Like one of, one of my most popular series of episodes is when, um, How do you set the thermostat in a multi-generational home? You know, and I, I woke up one night, middle of the night, it's [00:55:00] July, and my dad had the heat on cause cause the old man was always cold. You know, he's wearing layers, he's wearing long Johns and we're in all of it and he's still cold.

I woke up in a sweat going, Oh my God, is this menopause like, did it start what's happening? You know, and at the time the thermostat was, we have a two family house. The thermostat was in his part of the house and you know, so I'm going down there, setting it back to normal and looking at it and going don't you touch that thermostat?

And it got so bad. That I paid to have that thermostat taken out. I put in a new one that I could control with my phone, and then I left and then I had the nerve to go off and perform at a conference. I get to the conference. Everybody's like, yeah. Hey Leanne, how are you doing? So what's going on with the thermostat?

How many people were like into this little urban shady ponds drama? My dad. [00:56:00] Thermostat, but it hits home for so many people. Cause how do you, how do you regulate the temperature in a multi-generational homes? So question for some people. Yeah. Who, who gets to be comfortable? Oh yeah. So yes, it has been.

That's how the podcast started. It's been therapeutic for me to just get these stories out and it's been helpful for some people to know that they're not alone on this journey because there's some real hard stories out there of what people are dealing with. Yeah. And I've found that the humor part, you know, bringing it on stage.

Is one type of therapy and then actually talking it out as it is, is the other. And really, if you don't do both, you're not, you're not tackling all of it. Uh, the humor part gets you more able to talk about the serious part, I think. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. You know, [00:57:00] one of the most interesting comp comments I've ever had about the podcast.

Uh, someone mentioned to me, they said they, when they see it pop up in their feed, they're like, yay,

they're going to laugh, but they're also going to feel there's going to be some feelings there that, you know, might not. Be comfortable to feel on the commute to work when you cried on the train, you know, but I take that as a compliment, you know, to be able to, to move people in that way. Right. Um, so we're going to get down to the last question.

I like to ask everybody this one a little bit different way, but, um, the best part of being in comedy is all the comedians you meet and they come into your life. And the worst part of comedy is all the comedian, Jimmy. And they come into you. No, you meant from me. So I like to ask what's the best and worst pieces of advice that you got coming up.

[00:58:00] Oh, okay. The worst piece of advice I got coming up, uh, again, women were told back in the day, not to, not to dress too sexy on stage. Cause you know, a woman in the audience might think you want her man. Yeah.

Yeah. And I, you know what, and I believe that you will get very, really early footage of me if there's really, there's not a ton out there, but I, you know, I'm wearing hats and boxy jackets and not, I'm not a girl. Don't look at me. It's ridiculous. But I, I finally had to get comfortable in myself, in my skin and realize it's got nothing to do with the, this is how I feel when I get on stage.

Right. And so I actually joke about it now. They said, don't bring. No, no dress too sexy on stage a woman in the audience. I think you want her man. And I look at the audience, I'm like ladies, rest easy. I got Netflix and batteries.

Um, I think the best advice, um, [00:59:00] you know, it's hard to narrow it down because I've gotten such good advice from so many people, you know, You have to be willing to listen though, you know, and take it in. But the best direct advice I got was from Bobby Collins. I I've opened for him many times, you know, various clubs and he said, you have to let them love you.

Yeah. You know, don't be so guarded on stage. And so he's like, they want to love you. People are coming to comedy shows most of them because some people got some issues. Most people want that connection. That's why they're watching it live when I am at home watching it on YouTube. So he goes open, open that up and let them in and let them love you, you know?

And that, that comes down to being relaxed and confident on stage. And it was, it, it wasn't instant. You know, but it definitely informed and changed how I approached performing. So. That's great. I've always wondered if I should give these [01:00:00] questions. I have the time, but I think if you think too much about them, then you, sometimes you don't pick out the best.

You're like, eh, yeah, no. Yeah. The in Taipei, I would have studied. I would've had a treatise here on page 72 was sharing. Screens. It's not, it's not. That's great. Um, so let's, uh, let's get into, uh, where we can find you on what you're working on now. So. Oh sure. Uh, um, the best place to find me the access point to all things me is my website, which is very funny,

Uh, because people can spell that after they've had their two drink minimum. Well, unlike my name, how much they like me, where does the geo I mean, it's. It's sad. So very funny, is, is how to find me and that'll get you to my Twitter, my IAG, my Instagram, my Facebook, uh, I'm really trying to have people [01:01:00] subscribe to my YouTube channel, which is Leanne Lord comedy.

Cause we've been trying to get more videos. There. And there's already a ton of content there that I think people will enjoy, um, in terms of what I'm working on. Now, I, you know, I am continuing to do the podcast. Uh, I've happily transitioned from doing live in-person shows to doing virtual shows because this is where we are now.

Yeah. And I, I had no idea that I would enjoy it. So much, you know, I spent the first, you know, 20 plus years of my career leaving my house to do comedy. Now I'm like, you want me to leave my house as you come. You know, and, and so building that skillset and doing those shows has been more fun than I expected.

Yeah. You know, so it, I don't know how much longer this will go, but I don't feel as horrible as I felt last year when everything shut down at first, so mean I'm enjoying building that audience and that skillset in my square, [01:02:00] so to speak it's different. Isn't it? And, uh, yeah, I, I don't take to it very well, but I still do it.

And I, I find that I do much better because I don't do much crowd work when I'm on a IRL stage, but in a zoom room, I do a lot of crowd work and that brings them in and then they listen to the rest. So, yeah. And I always give the host a bunch of crap too. So you know, that. That always helps too. So, um, yeah, it's, it's different and, uh, right.

And you only, it, again, these are the, it's not that much different from the real world, you know? Okay. When you first started comedy. Yeah. That was awkward. That was weird. What'd you do you went to open mic, she got better. What do you do for zoom shows or online shows you do them? Yeah. Yeah. And then you do more of them, you know, stop making it complicated, everybody.

How do I am seeing your show the same way in real life? You explain to the audience what's [01:03:00] about to happen. What's expected of them, what we would like on new year mix, turn your camera on, you know, make sure you don't have any background. Like you let them know as the MC what's expected of that. And then you go and introduce everybody.

Like they're your best friend. Yeah. You know, and you make it feel like cohesive experience. Same job. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It's it's different. It's uh, it's, I've had a lot of fun doing it. And my first few were just absolutely awful and, uh, they were, they were recorded, so yeah. Oh no. Do you stand up or sit down?

Um, I, I prefer to stand, but man, if I'm closing. My feet after an hour, or like, we don't like, so, cause it's that's yeah, it's just been hard. So I try to do best of both worlds, you know, like I let them know the comms in the beginning. I was like, listen, you guys I'm here. I'm listening. Cause I like, well, I [01:04:00] think it's important.

Um, and then I sort of mosey back to my area where I'm, I'm standing for my show, but I think it's, it's a better energy. I shouldn't say better. Um, it's a standup energy. Now, if you have to sit, you know, that's fine, you know, I get it, you know, but I, I like standing, I've stood my entire career and I feel more in show mode.

Yeah. I, I feel absolutely the same. And that's why I've got this going on. I've got, you know, I've got the mic and the stand and everything, so it just, it just works better for me. The only problem is, is I'm six, five. So I'm getting the camera at the right place. It's really, yeah. Yeah, that positioning. Like, I like my pre-show tech is like, okay, I'm moving the Stan and Mike and the lighter, the, you know, I've become my own producer.

Yeah. You know, so yeah, it's a lot. And I'm five, seven. Well, this has been great. I really appreciate you talking to me Leanne after you've [01:05:00] been at my phone for about a year and a half. So. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. I appreciate it. Thank you so much for inviting me to do this, man. I love talking about myself. No, no, no.

I mean, I love talking. I'll talk about comedy, man. This is, yeah, this has been great. And folks make sure to go to a very funny and all the links will be in the show notes. That'll make it easy. Thanks for watching a few of your wash and thanks for listening.